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The room is still full for the last session for today. To end the day, we are hearing from Fred Reichheld, with his talk on Loyalty and Net Promoter. Fred makes the point - relationships worthy of loyalty should be a top priority — but that in most business it is still a joke. This is why Fred has stated that he is no longer the high priest of loyalty but is now the godfather of growth.


 

Loyalty leaders are growing at 2.6x their competitor averages.

But Fred stated that by investing in loyalty, you get big financial returns. Enterprise Car Rental has achieved the number one slot in the car rental industry by focusing on loyalty. Southwest Airlines, Costco, Chick-fil-a are all loyalty leaders with loyal customers and employees. These guys are treating people in a way that earns their loyalty.


 

The secret of building loyal relationships? Fred quotes Colleen Barrett of Southwest Airlines "Practicing the Golden Rule is integral to everything we do.  As it happens, the natural result of ‘Golden Rule behavior' is customer loyalty and employee retention."


 

 

Bad profits, while providing short term gains, do not lead to long term growth. Fred blames the CFO for focusing on the numbers and not the customer experience. Accountants can't distinguish good profits vs. bad profits nor are they concerned with the golden rule.


 

 

So, the way to grow — build promoters! They generate the growth and profits. So how do you do that? Listen to them. Companies who track referrals see the value of building customers that will recommend you. For TurboTax, promoters are worth 80% more then the average customer and detractors are worth 36% less then average. And TurboTax has been listening: when customers told them they did not like rebates, they acted. The result: their Net Promoter score has gone from 46% in 2003 to 60% in 2005 and market share in the same period from 70% to 79%.


 

 

Fred also talked about the history of Net Promoter and why the 0-10 scale (something about it being invented by the caveman). But the bottom line is that the Golden Rule does drive growth and there are many business examples that prove the point.

 

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My second session was another enjoyable interactive presentation delivered by Steve Dee from Swiss Reinsurance Company (Swiss Re). The session, which included everything from teaching the audience a magic trick (pulling a rabbit out of a hat, literally, ok, albeit a baby stuffed plush rabbit) to covering the Net Promoter program efforts at Swiss Re, was full of insightful data suggestions that can help companies who are just starting the NP journey.

Steve came to Swiss Re from GE where he had successfully implemented a Net Promoter program. The challenge at Swiss Re was what Steve referred to as a "Client Focus Dilemma": how to drive client retention and increase wallet share while defining client centric measurement metrics.


 

Using the classic Net Promoter question as a foundation ("How likely is it that you would recommend Company X to a colleague or friend"), Steve created a program that has been able to deliver data that has already driven positive change within Swiss Re.


 

Swiss Re took a unique approach and asked its customers if they would be interested in spending more survey time, thus providing Swiss Re with more insights that could drive positive customer-centric change.  Based on the customer agreement, Swiss Re created a database of customers who were willing to be surveyed and drove the process on an annual basis.


 

Communication, communication, communication.  Some of the best practices that Swiss Re uses to drive organizational change include the NPS Care package: a packet of information targeted at the various functional audiences throughout Swiss Re that includes:

 


  • NPS Overview
  • Deployment Process
  • Deployment Plan
  • Dashboard Example
  • Results Example
  • FAQs
  • Copy of the 2003 HBR article
  • Other success stories

 

Steve shared that success came because Swiss Re followed a plan that kept the process simple, the focus clear, attained leadership commitment, regular communication and took a phased program approach, using a Pilot site to work out the bugs.


 

 

 

 

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Simon_lyonsAs we enter the home stretch of Day One of the EMEA Net Promoter Conference, I cannot but be impressed with the amount of best practices that have already been shared by some very distinguished speakers. And this trend continues well into the afternoon as I have the pleasure of covering two speakers for you who will be laying out some key concepts that are the foundations for running a fine tuned Net Promoter program.


 

The speaker I am covering first is Simon Lyons, Global Head of Marketing and Communications for Aggreko, a generators rental business targeting companies, individuals and countries as well as providing mission critical power supply to disaster hit areas and regions impacted by war. They are a global company with a 1.5 billion market cap.

 

Simon talked about how things were when he joined 3 years ago. There was no collation of customer issues, no structured issue-handling mechanism and no real voice of the customer coming in to Aggreko.  As Aggreko moved toward addressing these challenges, the inflection point came through a Harvard Business Review article that showcased similar business models to theirs where NPS was linked to revenue.


 

One of Simon's immediate actions was to move marketing closer to operational business. He rolled out the Net Promoter program using a phased approach, all the while addressing the challenges that had been the impetus for Net Promoter at Aggreko.


 

Three key points:


  • Get the support of your CEO
  • Keep the data simple
  • Make sure that the data can be used to produce useful insights.

Simon made sure that the data collected through the Net Promoter surveys was made available to all Aggreko employees immediately. And I mean immediately! The responses go out to the groups who are required to take action and these groups or individuals are given forty-eight hours to connect with the surveyed. If they miss, their superiors are notified and are put on a similar forty-eight hour clock. Talk about intense commitment to follow-up!


 

Aggreko has seen a change in the way their customers have responded, and internally, they have found that the benefits of having NPS as a program brings the focus back on:


 

  • Credible data for performance metrics
  • Real time metrics that the company can act upon
  • True operational transparency

 

All these elements combine to illustrate a facts-based picture that allows Aggreko to get closer to what truly matters to its customers.

 

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Ask Bernhard Klein Wassink, Senior Vice President, Global Marketing, GE Real Estate: "Why did GE Real Estate embark on the NP journey in 2005, when they have tripled their net income over the last 5 years?"


 

Well to start, Bernhard quotes GE CEO Jeff Immelt: "NPS is the best formula I've seen in my career here, and I want everybody here to get on board." This is seen as the next wave at GE, following other successes like Six Sigma.


 

So does GE Real Estate have a business problem?

Well, no, but they see factors that are affecting their business like globalization, mergers and acquisitions, and tons of liquidity. One thing they said for sure is that while they are global, their customers are local. Reputation and local relationships are key. And growing these relationships is the most important factor to overcoming the above problems.


 

GE has achieved results with their program — but how did they get there?


 

They accomplished it with the tried and true "Listen — Act - Grow." First, they listened with a telephone interview. Immediately after they collect this feedback, they act with a "detractor alert" email and quickly follow up. This email includes both email and audio from the call. What was interesting is that the audio files are even more compelling than the written response. Through this process, they have taken multiple detractor calls and turned then into new deals — a common NP story. But this is an operational approach.


 

Being GE, they also take an analytical look at the data. To do this, GE Real Estate asks other questions in their live interviews so they can conduct a driver analysis to see what factors such as speed and delivering on the promise impact the NP score. This approach allows them to focus on areas that will drive long term improvements, like products, business processes, etc. They have also learned the five key drivers of deal experience which account for 70% of the NPS variance. This helps them prioritize goals and focus on the right actions.


 

But this is not the whole program. There is also a communication plan to customers, internal and external. Internally, these are one and one and group reviews. "NPS Day", is an internal meeting where awards are given out and all employees are invited. These types of meetings are making a difference. Employees are learning that what they do is important to customers and their actions do have impact.


 

With customers, they are communicating through customer testimonial ads, customer events, and through the press, Bernhard states. But the main conclusion is that customer and prospects hear value — and that GE's brand has improved in customer perception since it started its Net Promoter program in 2005.


 

So does this result in growth? Bernhard gave some numbers around new business. This has accelerated for GE Real Estate lately (196% of goal). Bernhard would guess that perhaps $3-4 billion of new business volume (out of $25.5 billion) in 2006 could be attributed to the Net Promoter Score! Bernhard backs this up by the fact that for everything GE does, they have to put a business case together. They need to understand how the program works — whether they were new customers or existing. They are still learning, so they still have a large margin of error on the estimate.


 

But in any case, they are getting results and growth!

 

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Martyn_christianMartyn Christian, VP Worldwide Marketing for IBM Enterprise Content Management, talked about their success with implementing Net Promoter and customer loyalty program over the last 5 years.


 

Wow! These results tell the story:


 

§         Increased Net Promoters from -6.73% to +20% (Net Shift of +26%)

§         Acting on Key Drivers, Drove Over 30 Company Wide Improvement Initiatives

§         Increased Revenue from Existing Base from 72% to over 80%

§         Increased Net Profit 10 percentage points

§         Increase "Positively Ecstatic" Customers

§         Database with customers willing to serve as references increased from 100 customers to over 600 in 12 Months

§         Published over 100 Customer Success Stories

§         Increased Press Activity

§         Analyst Validation — Gartner/IDC/Forrester briefings on program

So how did they get there?

They collected the feedback, but more importantly they acted, in the front lines, on the data.


 

One of the things they learned after the dot-com bust was that they had to invest into their existing customers — up-sell and cross sell. As Martyn stated, nobody will buy from you if they do not know or value you. Because of this, mining their existing customers was the core of their strategy over the last few years.


 

They had new products coming to market so central to their goals was to increase revenue, sales efficiency, increase customer and partner loyalty, and to build barriers to entry for competitors, all while selling the new products into the installed base.


 

FileNet started with a simple business problem that sounds familiar — they had, quoting Martyn, "No systematic process or program to generate advocates of our products and improve customer loyalty". This resulted in a fragmented client relationship model; limited visibility into the customer's enterprise; a fragmented customer-centric culture; and some departments that were engaged but most that were spectators. Employees, like the engineers, did not want to visit customers, especially unhappy ones.


 

One of the first things they did was to set goals, including Net Promoter targets for all employees worldwide. They also got executive sponsorship from the start. They built communication programs around this approach to drive compensation strategies and focus on response rates.


But the key was they acted! "Hot sites" was a Monday morning event where they reviewed customer issues. As Martyn stated, "Put the customer in the center of everything". Relationship with the customer was a top company objective.

 


From a roadmap point of view, they started with a customer engagement initiative which resulted in a customer loyalty initiative, from Satmetrix, which was launched as one of the CEO's top 5 initiatives. From this program, they identified three areas to further investigate: a product lifecycle; leadership development; and development lifecycle initiatives.


 

They created a loyalty council, which was focused on direct customer action for all "trigger 6" surveys (detractors). They tied this into their CRM and set company targets around this. There was a case-by-case direct customer engagement in all functions — both front line and back office.


 

They also set some goals — like calling on existing customers at least 4 times a year — even if the customer had no budget! They also focused on segmenting customers as tune-up accounts or development accounts, which resulted in specific engagement strategies.


 

Another way they got value into the CRM system was to integrate the customer data so sales people could easily link into their customers' experience data inside the CRM system.


 

Finally, every employee had a part of their variable compensation tied to NP or other customer engagement initiatives. They also had a sales contest where they could win a customer experience award, for which the sales teams were judged on a number of customer metrics, including the NP score, response rates and revenue. This prompted a fierce global competition between all the sales teams to win this award.


 

Here are some of the key takeaways that I got from Martyn's presentation:


 

§         Do not over-complicate!

—         Start simple and direct

§         Create earlier and stronger transition/change management activities

§         Share information across all disciplines

§         Re-think functional roles and responsibilities

§         Tie compensation to customer Loyalty

§         Take a programmatic approach

—         Consider this a component of your corporate fabric

§         Prepare the company

—         Education/Roundtables

 


All great advice!

 

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Richard_owen_2Richard Owen, CEO of Satmetrix, the co-developer of Net Promoter, kicked off the presentations by talking about Net Promoter and the value to your business. He talked about why Net Promoter is taking off.

Richard presented four reasons that are driving the adoption of NP:


  1. Shift to service economies
  2. Shortcomings in public accounting
  3. The high rate of CRM failure, and
  4. The Reinvention of marketing.

 

(And all in 45 minutes)


 

The first big topic that Richard covered is the shift to service economies.

When farmers started to celebrate birthdays for their kids, they used ingredients they had on the farm to make a cake. Eggs, milk, etc. Cost? About 5 cents. As people moved off the farms they went to the store and bought the same ingredients for about a dollar. But people wanted further convenience, so they bought cake mix (about 2 dollars). But more convenience was desired, so they go to the bakery and can pay up to 50 dollars for the same cake containing about 5 cents worth of ingredients — this is the definition of the full-service economy.


 

 

But this is not the end — parents want a better experience for their kids, so they take their kids to entertainment places with pizza, games and the cake thrown in. Total cost? Over 200 dollars.


 

 

The point is that advanced nations have moved from manufacturing to an experienced-based economy. Services are where the vast majority of value is being created.


 

 

This leads to customer experience as a differentiator and why NP is important. The point is that value creation is becoming harder and harder. Operational efficiencies like inventory control are not a source of value creation any more. Long term value creation is now around the customer.


 

 

The next topic was the shortcomings in public accounting.


 

Accounting is not sexy. But accounting has profound impact on how a company does business. If customer metrics were as important as financial metrics then CEOs would be held accountable- but they are not. And compensation does drive behavior. In this case, short term profits vs. investing in long-term customer value creation.


 

 

This is why is NP compelling as it offers an open standard. It is compelling for marketing as well as financial organizations. With NP as an open standard you can optimize your business around financial performance and customer performance.


 

 

The next topic that Richard covered is the high rate of CRM failure.


 

 

Companies are spending billions on CRM, but companies do not know anything about their customers. This is because CRM is an inside-out view — what they have bought, when they bought it, etc. NP is a complement to CRM since it provides an outside-in view that is predictive and forward looking.



One of the failures of around CRM is adoption. NP can aid CRM adoption since it provides a valuable tool to your sales team. Just ask any account manager if knowing his Net Promoter scores of his decision makers and influencers for his next big deal would be valuable!


 

 

The last topic that Richard covered is the Reinvention of Marketing.


 

 

Advertising is in trouble — he gave the example of Digital Video Recorder ownership having increased to 20% of US households. Of these households, 70% skip commercials. Reaching your customers is getting harder and harder.


 

 

On the flip side, blogs have taken off. Your customers are talking about you. Wikipedia, RSS, podcasting, etc. are all growing. People want to be heard! What used to be frustrated letters to the CEO and phone calls to support are now being played out on YouTube. The suggestion box on the CEO's door is now being done in public. These public sources are influencing opinion. Facebook has 90% of the student population in the US, MySpace has 57 million members, networking, open source technology. All of this is Word of Mouth marketing, positive and negative.


 

Bad PR from these online communities can negate million dollars of marketing spend. Marketing's response is to spend more on marketing tricks, not on improving the customer experience. If you do not respond by focusing on customer experience you will lose in the end.


 

 

WOM is taking off and NP is one of the ways to get your arms around this phenomenon. The other point Richard got across is that Marketing does not know the efficiency of their spend. Interesting, since marketing efficiency is going down.


 

 

All of these things add up to why Net Promoter is taking off. The last reason he gave is that Net Promoter is an open standard. It is this openness that will drive its success at being adopted by a wider community.

 

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