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Fred Reichheld has been thinking about the link between customer loyalty and a company's financial performance for 30 years. Somehow recently Fred has sparked a negative response from the market research community. So there you have it, a picture of Fred as the devil. Fred makes the point that Net Promoter is not intended to be the world's best predictor of future performance. Perhaps the best predictor of future performance is superior management based on intense focus on the customer. NPS is a tool for managers to drive a customer-centered strategy. That indeed is likely to lead to improved performance in the future.

 

 

NPS is different because it is motivational, it encourages people to want to invest in a relationship. The real goal is to turn everyone into a 10. Wouldn't we rather do business with someone whose customers are likely to strongly recommend them? Wouldn't you rather work for a company who delivers such value that customers strongly recommend? It is rather simple. More fundamentally, it strikes at the universal basis of good relationships -- the Golden Rule. Southwest Airlines, Four Seasons, and eBay, as examples, all practice the Golden Rule. Look at the eBay feedback system. eBay sellers need to maintain a good reputation by treating people right, otherwise their trust score dives.

 

 

How many people have gone to jail for fudging financial numbers? I think we read about it weekly. How many people have gone to jail for fudging loyalty scores? That would be zero! Fred's point is that our value system is controlled by the profit motive, without attention to long term value. Companies get away with bad profits all the time. Yet all of the companies who practice bad profits measure some form of customer satisfaction. Fred's slide pictured this as a gorilla (financial accounting) against a puppy dog (loyalty measures).

 

 

NPS is radical because it forces bad profits out of the system. NPS, if applied correctly, will come into conflict with short term gain. The Golden Rule does not come for free.

 

 

The business inspiration for NPS was Andy Taylor, CEO of Enterprise Rent-A-Car, who commented that the real way to know if your business is going to grow, is if your customers will come back and bring their friends. Enterprise took the customer satisfaction survey out of market research and put it in the hands of operations. To keep it simple he reduced the survey to two questions: "Would you recommend?" and "Why?" The field was made responsible. Promotions were tied to the results.

 

At Enterprise, cheating on or fudging the numbers will cost you your job. So the core learning here on NPS is primarily front-line, bottom-up oriented. Fred made the point that many people believe in NPS, but then turn it into a survey administered top-down and tied to bonus. NPS is intended to drive fast front-line changes that will improve customer experience; a measure that drives fast change.

 

 

Fred then presented the case for segmenting your business to focus on the strategic drivers of growth; accounts he calls "angels". Angels are accounts that are profitable and are promoters. Fred asked who in the audience knew their angels? I didn't see any hands.

 

 

Fred went on to talk about the Charles Schwab story of taking a -35 NPS in 2004 to a +23 in 2007. Success was a combination of a localized effort, training, and root cause analysis, etc.

 

 

Fred closed with a reiteration of linking the Golden Rule to NPS. It is simple in concept but there is a test to make sure you are applying NPS:

 

  • Are you categorizing promoters?
  • Is there a systematic process in place for reducing number of detractors?
  • Is there a process in place to identify and grow profitable promoters?
  • Is there leadership commitment?

 

 

Fred was asked what to do if you don't have close contact with your customers. He mentioned in response, that one way to remedy this is to build an online community for customers. He referenced his work with Intuit's Inner Circle customer community and Informative, which is now part of Satmetrix. He suggested this is a good way to get close to customers and to engage them in conversations that will drive improvements.

 

 

Fred reiterated this in a second question suggesting that a community is a good way to get customers talking, learn ways to make improvement even before rolling out a full-blown program.

 

 

Fred then responded to a question on NPS and employees (B2E). He believes we now need to look at how we can use NPS to transform employee management. He talked about how Bain ranked managers based on their NPS scores from their team members. The scores were published and the bottom half do not get promoted.

 

 

Throughout the session, Fred spoke to the battle between the Gorilla (financial accounting) and the Big Dog (loyalty scores with teeth). The issue is how to give power to the Golden Rule.  Enterprise is a pioneer.  All impactful implementations of NPS will drive cultural change that focuses on customer loyalty; The Big Dog.

 

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Fred Reichheld began his session by tackling the debate raised by the market research community. He referred to himself as the anti-christ of market research. While all three of his books have been best sellers, The Ultimate Question has stirred up major debate in the market research arena. The biggest criticism is that it's over simplified. It's just one question and nothing about why? Yet, if you read the book it's all about the why. NPS is not intended to be a superior predictive analytic; it is intended to be a management tool.

 

 

He addressed the question of why the "status quo" market researchers are so critical of NPS and believes it's because NPS has attracted so many of their customers. He showed a slide with many big brand logos that are using NPS and seeing results.

 

 

Fred has resisted the temptation to address the market researchers head on and instead has invested his energy into helping companies get results with NPS. According to him, here are the reasons why so many companies are using NPS vs. traditional approaches:

 

 

  • Intuitive and practical
  • Efficient and respectful of customers' time. (He described a recent experience with British Airways where he was presented with a survey with 79 questions. The first 15 questions could have been filled out by them -- seat, flight, etc. This was not respectful of his time.)
  • Diagnostics have to take place by people so they can take action.
  • Action oriented: daily, weekly, monthly report
  • Motivational. It's not about the score, it's about treating people in a way that builds relationships.
  • It's the right objective.
  • Loyalty economics, link to the numbers investors care about.
  • Open source. Most loyalty index calculations are a closed source.
  • Based on a simple moral premise, treat others the way you want to be treated.

 

 

The goal is not about the score, it's about turning everyone you touch into a promoter.

 

The model is clear. Customer loyalty drives growth. Loyalty is driven by partner, employee and channel loyalty. Their loyalty is driven by the leadership loyalty, creating a culture of rewarding those that treat people right.

 

 

In contrast, business is run by accounting standards. Financial metrics that are audited, and people go to jail if they are dishonest about the numbers. How many people have gone to jail for gaming satisfaction numbers? (Otherwise we wouldn't be able to buy cars, as all the car dealers would be in jail!)

 

Bad profits alienate customers and de-motivate employees. Examples:

 

 

  • Hotel: phone bills
  • Banking: returned check fee
  • Cellular: best price for new customers
  • Airlines: change fee
  • Rental car: gasoline refill at 3x retail

 

 

NPS is radical. It's trying to take bad profits out of the business. Instead, it focuses on the building blocks of growth.

 

 

  • Repurchase
  • Buy additional lines
  • Referrals
  • Constructive feedback

 

 

None are measured in generally accepted account metrics.

 

Balance the power between net profits and net growth.

 

Part of the success of Enterprise Rent-A-Car is their focus on NPS. They focused on:

 

 

  • Reliable categorization of detractors and promoters
  • Approach to reduce detractors
  • Approach to grow promoters
  • Established as a leadership priority

 

 

They stack ranked their branches; low performing branches couldn't be promoted. They audit results and fire people that cheat. The results are that 80% of customers are promoters, they have grown to dominate the industry while price competitive and paying their people best in the industry.

 

 

The key is to get NPS working at all levels. Top down is helpful for setting strategic priorities and driving culture change. Bottom up, frontline engagement changes the score daily, weekly, monthly. Cross functional leaders tend to be the ones designing the policies that drive bad profits because they have a financial budget they have to hit even if it impacts loyal customers because this is typically not measured. Drive NPS measures across at all levels to get results.

 

 

Think of profitability and Net Promoter simultaneously. He showed a chart from one of the accounting firms that segmented promoter, passive, detractors on one axis and profitability on the other. This allows companies identify the market segments with best profits and high loyalty allowing them to focus on the markets that matter most. When the biggest accounting firms are using NPS, good things will happen.

 

Finally, he asked the audience if they were doing NPS. Here are the questions to ask yourself regarding your Net Promoter program:

 

 

  • Are you categorizing customers into promoters, passive and detractors in a reliable way?
  • Do you have systematic process for reducing detractors?
  • Do you have a systematic process for growing profitable promoters?
  • Is it a leadership priority?

 

 

While the market researchers debate the relative merits of multi-variant indices, the companies represented here at the Net Promoter Conference are getting on with the business of building more promoters and eliminating detractors.

 

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