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Fred Reichheld has been thinking about the link between customer loyalty and a company's financial performance for 30 years. Somehow recently Fred has sparked a negative response from the market research community. So there you have it, a picture of Fred as the devil. Fred makes the point that Net Promoter is not intended to be the world's best predictor of future performance. Perhaps the best predictor of future performance is superior management based on intense focus on the customer. NPS is a tool for managers to drive a customer-centered strategy. That indeed is likely to lead to improved performance in the future.

 

 

NPS is different because it is motivational, it encourages people to want to invest in a relationship. The real goal is to turn everyone into a 10. Wouldn't we rather do business with someone whose customers are likely to strongly recommend them? Wouldn't you rather work for a company who delivers such value that customers strongly recommend? It is rather simple. More fundamentally, it strikes at the universal basis of good relationships -- the Golden Rule. Southwest Airlines, Four Seasons, and eBay, as examples, all practice the Golden Rule. Look at the eBay feedback system. eBay sellers need to maintain a good reputation by treating people right, otherwise their trust score dives.

 

 

How many people have gone to jail for fudging financial numbers? I think we read about it weekly. How many people have gone to jail for fudging loyalty scores? That would be zero! Fred's point is that our value system is controlled by the profit motive, without attention to long term value. Companies get away with bad profits all the time. Yet all of the companies who practice bad profits measure some form of customer satisfaction. Fred's slide pictured this as a gorilla (financial accounting) against a puppy dog (loyalty measures).

 

 

NPS is radical because it forces bad profits out of the system. NPS, if applied correctly, will come into conflict with short term gain. The Golden Rule does not come for free.

 

 

The business inspiration for NPS was Andy Taylor, CEO of Enterprise Rent-A-Car, who commented that the real way to know if your business is going to grow, is if your customers will come back and bring their friends. Enterprise took the customer satisfaction survey out of market research and put it in the hands of operations. To keep it simple he reduced the survey to two questions: "Would you recommend?" and "Why?" The field was made responsible. Promotions were tied to the results.

 

At Enterprise, cheating on or fudging the numbers will cost you your job. So the core learning here on NPS is primarily front-line, bottom-up oriented. Fred made the point that many people believe in NPS, but then turn it into a survey administered top-down and tied to bonus. NPS is intended to drive fast front-line changes that will improve customer experience; a measure that drives fast change.

 

 

Fred then presented the case for segmenting your business to focus on the strategic drivers of growth; accounts he calls "angels". Angels are accounts that are profitable and are promoters. Fred asked who in the audience knew their angels? I didn't see any hands.

 

 

Fred went on to talk about the Charles Schwab story of taking a -35 NPS in 2004 to a +23 in 2007. Success was a combination of a localized effort, training, and root cause analysis, etc.

 

 

Fred closed with a reiteration of linking the Golden Rule to NPS. It is simple in concept but there is a test to make sure you are applying NPS:

 

  • Are you categorizing promoters?
  • Is there a systematic process in place for reducing number of detractors?
  • Is there a process in place to identify and grow profitable promoters?
  • Is there leadership commitment?

 

 

Fred was asked what to do if you don't have close contact with your customers. He mentioned in response, that one way to remedy this is to build an online community for customers. He referenced his work with Intuit's Inner Circle customer community and Informative, which is now part of Satmetrix. He suggested this is a good way to get close to customers and to engage them in conversations that will drive improvements.

 

 

Fred reiterated this in a second question suggesting that a community is a good way to get customers talking, learn ways to make improvement even before rolling out a full-blown program.

 

 

Fred then responded to a question on NPS and employees (B2E). He believes we now need to look at how we can use NPS to transform employee management. He talked about how Bain ranked managers based on their NPS scores from their team members. The scores were published and the bottom half do not get promoted.

 

 

Throughout the session, Fred spoke to the battle between the Gorilla (financial accounting) and the Big Dog (loyalty scores with teeth). The issue is how to give power to the Golden Rule.  Enterprise is a pioneer.  All impactful implementations of NPS will drive cultural change that focuses on customer loyalty; The Big Dog.

 

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Kip Knight, Vice President of Marketing at eBay, spoke about Investing in Community and NPS to Drive Customer Loyalty. 248 million people are registered on eBay creating a worldwide online marketplace.

 

Over 1.3 million people make all or part of their living on eBay. eBay defines community as everyone who has a relationship with eBay including buyers, sellers, employees, and users of Skype to select a few examples. eBay sees community as a strategic differentiator. Members actively engaged with eBay have a higher NPS, sell more, buy more and in general are more valuable customers.

 

 

The eBay community as defined has both online and off-line components. eBay Live events are a significant part of the eBay community initiative. Online, eBay has a number of channels including The Chatter which is a blog that keeps eBay community members aware of what is going on. Also, the Voices Program is an ongoing group of 300 active members that are invited in four  to six times a year to function as an advisory group to eBay management.

 

 

The first loyalty tool at eBay was the Feedback System which was a way for the community to monitor itself. While the system is widely used, eBay still felt NPS was needed and has made it part of eBay's DNA. In fact, NPS is the only forward looking metric eBay uses. NPS is measured top down via an ongoing sampling of buyers and sellers. Bottom up NPS is measured at the transactional level. eBay is able to tie NPS to other online behaviors. NPS is used as a "Red Alert" to reach out to at risk, high value buyers.

 

 

The NPS program was not launched until this year, 2008. Counted as an early win is the fact that senior executives are now reading customer verbatim statements. And internal NPS workshops are driving action. A key early learning from implementing the program is knowing what to centralize and what to delegate; centralize data gathering, delegate insights and evangelism. The learning process is ongoing.

 

eBay's online community is the company's biggest asset. NPS is a primary used vehicle for staying in touch with Community members. While there were challenges in implementing NPS at eBay, it was considered well worth the effort.

 

 

One question from the audience was: Have you been able to track the value of an eBay community member? Kip responded that eBay is putting measures in place to link NPS with behavior. From this they hope to build a Net Promoter economics model.

 

 

A second question was "Why did he recommend a company take its time implementing NPS?" Kip made the analogy to "test markets." It is important to learn first since it is hard to recover from a false start.

 

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Allianz is one of the world's largest insurance and financial services company. Their Customer Focus program is dedicated to creating a superior customer experience that maximizes customer loyalty, resulting in increased referrals, retention and cross-selling, profitable growth, and increased value for shareholders. Andrew Clayton, VP and Operations Director for Allianz, discussed their program.

 

 

The company has implemented a wide variety of Customer Focus tools to help them deliver on their promise to customers. These tools are organized around a framework focused on Listening, Learning and Change. NPS is measured from both a Top Down and Bottom Up perspective. The Top Down measures are used for management KPIs, to measure overall success of the program and benchmark against competitors. The Bottom Up perspective helps to mobilize front-line staff to be more customer-focused.

 

Linking NPS to organic growth is a critical factor in keeping top management attention. Allianz has convinced themselves of the linkage by not only tracking their own numbers, but by also studying competitive performances as well. Tracking the value of a Promoter vs. the value of a Detractor is key to driving the program.

Allianz has a 91% participation rate in their NPS surveys. Furthermore, customers are willing to participate in follow up calls. The participation rate seems high but perhaps Allianz has found a way to keep it short and rewarding.

For Allianz, as with other NPS practitioners, it's not about the number, but about driving continuous business improvements. The NPS program at Allianz is not a new one -- Andrew frequently made references to "we did that a number of years ago". One gets the picture of a mature program with wide participation by various parts of the organization.

 

Key success factors:

  1. Have a well-defined scope
  2. Include experts from your operations team
  3. Set up a cross functional team
  4. Effective communication
  5. In-depth training
  6. Early identification and implementation of quick wins
  7. Recognize and reward success
  8. Embed NPS as part of a performance measurement system

 

 

Mobilizing a large organization is not easy. It appears that the next move for Allianz is to institutionalize NPS.

 

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Conny Kalcher from LEGO Company addressed the topic of growing brand ambassadors.  The name LEGO comes from Danish words that mean "play well," and most agree that LEGO makes that a driving passion for the company as well as for the customer/consumer. Did you know that there are 52 LEGO bricks for every person on earth? In many cultures, when the idea of creative play is discussed, LEGO enters the conversation.

So how is it that a company with such focus on play could hit hard times, even face the possibility of bankruptcy?  Conny suggested that perhaps it was the loss of a keen focus on the customer. She shared how the grandson of the company founder reentered the picture and restored focus on the essence of the LEGO brand - the customer experience.

 

The more connected a customer is to LEGO the more they spend to get the LEGO experience. The company's strategy, then, is to leverage various customer touch points to get to know their consumers and create a special connection with them.

 

One way LEGO builds that connection is through the Kids Inner Circle. Members get the opportunity to talk about their experience and, as a reward they get an inside track to LEGO news. The kids participate in blogs and adaptive conversations (a unique way to get collaboration on ideas). They get to see how their ideas are being accepted by others and used by LEGO.

Net Promoter is a key metric to track connection with the customer. Conny pointed out actions the company has taken to improve their Net Promoter Score (NPS), such as changing packing materials and working to improve fulfillment. Monthly reports provide Net Promoter Scores and action plans, and all parts of the company share NPS KPIs, driving a focus on the customer experience.

There are over 70,000 YouTube movies on LEGO, over 200,000 LEGO pictures on Flickr and a LEGO search on Google returns over 50 million hits.  LEGO is taking an organized approach to this popularity, with Promoter programs such as LEGO Club, AFOL (Adult Friends of LEGO), LUGs (LEGO User Groups), Brickfests, LEGO Professionals and others. (I have personally attended a Brickfest in Washington D.C. and the LEGO section of last year's Maker Faire in the San Franciso Bay Aarea. If you want to see examples of truly engaged customers, I recommend you attend!)

 

What LEGO has found is that openness and dialogue with customers pay off. LEGO has, in essence, extended the boundaries of the company to include its advocates. Lead user involvement and co-creation are a growing part of LEGO's business and they are implementing business strategies that put the customer in the center of their business. While NPS plays a central role in driving customer-centric behaviour, it needs to be implemented alongside a customer-centric culture and engagement programs such as LEGO's Club and the Kids Inner Circle, to deliver the desired results.

 

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