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San Francisco Conference Blog 2009

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David Henry, Chief Marketing and Customer Experience Officer; Rory Dooley, General Manager, Control Devices; Glenn Rogers, Director of Customer Experience; Moderated by Fred Reichheld, Author, The Ultimate Question

 

 

Logitech closed the day and the conference with an excellent discussion of using NPS in product innovation.

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CMO David Henry introduced the company and their customer experience approach to us. This is a company with strong (very strong) roots in both product development and interaction design. David summed it up for me when he said, “we are focused on the interaction between the technical platform on the one hand and the human being.”

 

They are using NPS as a key measure to understand how they are doing with us humans that use their products. And it seems to be working pretty well so far, 18 months into their journey.

They started by creating a new approach and organization within the company…putting together under one group the following functions: marketing, quality, customer support, and (a new one) customer experience. The common denominator is the customer, and NPS is the metric that helps them know how they are doing with each new product release.

 

As David described the Customer Experience (CX) vision, I jotted down a few words on a scribble sheet…

…attitude…promoters…love…share…long-term relationship

 

For a company focused on making great product, they certainly seem to know what emotions they want to engender from their product users.  But how do they plan to get there?

 

One very practical, and meaningful, process change stood out. They have introduced a new step in their product development and release process, called “Gate X”. Gate X happens when the product is basically done, but not yet approved for mass production. And they couple Gate X with final consumer acceptance testing. They ask consumers for feedback using the recommend question and have threshold Net Promoter Scores as part of this signoff process.

 

What’s a good score in the Logitech world? They would like to see all products one day scoring in the range of 75% NPS. But the relative scores also tell them something. They showed for major product categories and explained that the products ranked #1 by NPS in each category were also #1 in revenue for each category.

 

David told the story of their first product that didn’t pass. It was a multi-million dollar delay to get it right, but the entire panel was in agreement that the additional investment was worth the delay. And, perhaps more important, it sent a signal to the organization that customer experience was truly important, and management was prepared to act on it in major decisions like this.

 

It was clear to me as we went through the discussion that customer feedback was not the only source of innovation. The company’s engineers and product teams also play a critical role. Rory Dooley, who runs the Control Devices group, elaborated on the importance of using the customer feedback to overcome strong, often differing, internal perspectives. That’s the best of both worlds from my perspective…leveraging your internal creativity and ingenuity, with the voice of the customer front and center to focus the discussion.

 

The good news is that most of their products pass Gate X and hit the mark with consumers. But I don’t think these guys are ready to rest on their laurels.

 

Footnote: I’d like to personally thank our audience member who requested free giveaways of Logitech products on the Oprah show. Feel free to write in to Oprah and suggest she have Logitech on the show to talk about their cool stuff and NPS. My personal vote goes for the illuminated keyboard (cool idea, I work late all the time!). While you’re at it, let’s ask Oprah if she uses Logitech webcams for her Skype interviews? Maybe the eBay folks in attendance (thank you eBay for your involvement!) can get us an in there!

 

That’s my final post for the conference. I learned more than ever this year, and want to thank Logitech and all the great speakers for being part of it.

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Tom Kehler, Vice President and GM Community Solutions, Satmetrix

Stephen Blundell, Senior Manager Vendor Partner Relations, Intuit

 

Tom Kehler, VP and GM of Community Solutions at Satmetrix and Steve Blundell, Customer Advocate at Intuit, talked about improving NPS through online customer engagement. About one half of the audience said they had an online community initiative underway. Tom presented a strong case for ‘continuous customer engagement’, especially in B2C and B2SMB. For example he asked, “Do you have the ability to contact your Promoters in the next 24 hours?” Promoters can be activated to support other customers, help in a marketing campaign, defend or back a corporate position, etc. In support of this Tom referenced a recent HBR article written by the cofounder of Intuit, Scott Cook called “The Contribution Revolution”. He talked about the need to create a Return on Engagement through better products (the best innovators are users of the product), better marketing (get Promoters to help form the message), and better word of mouth (comes from a trusted relationship and starts with listening). The customer’s return is the ability to influence the company and product direction and to play a role in creating a better customer experience – for themselves.

 

Tom stressed that the primary goal in a customer engagement program is to demonstrate that you are listening. He then shared a case-study on the Intuit TurboTax Inner Circle program, a micro-site for customers to have conversations with Intuit. Tom walked through an innovative technology (Adaptive Conversation) for identifying the best ideas from a large customer group. He also explained how the system is able to build robust customer profiles that leads to better CRM and support a closed-loop process. When combined, these capabilities allow a company to demonstrate that they know their customers, know their needs and are able to actively help improve the customer experience.

IMG_2228.JPG Steve then showed how the ProSeries and TurboTax product teams were able to use the Satmetrix platform to engage customers in product improvement. Customers provide ideas in their own words, vote on statements provided by others and then rank ideas by importance. The process extracts ‘wisdom from the crowd’ by turning qualitative feedback into quantitative results. Intuit is able to take action on this data since it identifies what’s important to the most number of customers. Steve shared other best practices for listening to customers including a customer council where customers are asked how Intuit can improve its products and services. These customers spend two days at Intuit’s offices paid for by Intuit. Steve found that if they involve customers in the beginning of the development process then they get a better product in the end. He referred to the successful launch of a payroll product due to this method of customer engagement. In another example, he shared a situation where Intuit thought the customer priority was to have a faster, easier TurboTax experience. After using the Satmetrix Customer Engagement platform Intuit realized this not to be the case and instead, to their surprise, found that the #1 problem was with rebates. This caused a significant shift in focus that eventually led to the elimination of rebates.

 

 

Tom concluded by stating that engaged customers create measurable results including increased loyalty, WOM and repeat purchases.

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Joseph Jaffee, Author, Join the Conversation and Life After the 30-Second Spot

 

Joseph Jaffee has opinions. And you can’t help but get engaged by the bold statements he makes.

Our second keynote for the morning shook up the room, and I understood why my colleague, Deborah Eastman, had recommended him so highly as a speaker for the conference. I also understood why he uses the job title, “Chief Interruptor.” You can’t get change without shocking the system. Hard.

 

IMG_2209.JPG I had started the day by asking everyone what functional area they worked in. I’d say about 20% of the room were from marketing, and Joseph asked them to throw out much of what they had learned about marketing in business school. Gone are the 4 P’s of Product, Price, Placement, and Promotion. Instead, he offered a different framework that more accurately reflects the two-way dialogue between “the people” who work at companies, and “the people” that buy their products and services And yes, it is all about REAL people, not just marketing messages and ad campaigns. But it’s also about how people express themselves in the digital and virtual world online. And he challenged us all to strip away the corporate persona, and join the conversation with our customers…one on one. What about Net Promoter? Joseph shared several points that tied his approach to the core concepts of Net Promoter: "You have to LISTEN and HEAR long enough to be INVITED IN to HELP the customer," he said. Combine that statement with the idea of REAL PEOPLE communicating with REAL PEOPLE…and you have some key elements of the Net Promoter discipline…like closing the loop with customers after they provide you with feedback, and striving to get more promoters in your business so they will share your message with others honestly and organically.

 

 

My final big takeaway from Joseph’s talk was that you can’t control the conversation. You can only participate in it and contribute to it, as honestly and openly as possible. Companies that try to control the message will either render it stale, or turn the judgment against them.

 

Having described every marketer’s worst fears in full video and graphic detail (including the infamous Comcast Technician video, and Dell Hell website), Joseph ended with some glimmers of hope. Both Comcast and Dell have come around, and are effectively responding to the feedback leveled against them by disgruntled consumers. And companies like Panasonic are reaching out to influential bloggers to involve them in the innovation process.

 

Being that open may not be easy, but who ever said running a business was easy.

Thanks, Joseph, for interrupting us for an hour or so today! I’ll look forward to hearing what our audience thought on Episode 122 of your podcast series at Jaffejuice.

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Tony Hsieh - CEO Zappos.com


Building a Brand that Matters

How many people have bought from Zappos? That’s a good question. According to the Net Promoter® Conference audience, a lot.


And the reason is because Zappos is focused on providing the best customer service and creating the most loyal customers. It is a mantra that is the corner stone of its corporate culture.

 

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Word of Mouth is Key


This is a business based on customer focus, creating repeat customers and driving Word of Mouth. They tried a large advertising campaign once but found they saw little rewards. Now the company takes the money that it would have been spent on advertising and puts it back into the customer experience.

Where a lot of companies are trying to lessen the amount of contact/calls from customers, Zappos wants to speak to the customers. They take about 5000 calls a day plus live chat, twitter, and emails. They want to create a complete word of mouth experience. One thing they’ve noticed is that when they do a random survey their Net Promoter Score (NPS)  is 83, but when they do the survey via phone their score raises to NPS 90. So Zappos is going to keep speaking with its customers as much as possible with the goal to build long term customer relationships.

 

To this end, everyone in the company goes through the same training as customer service, plus 2 weeks on the phone and training on twitter. Zappos believes that if the company is going to focus on customer service then everyone needs to be focused on customer service. Culture fit is key to the organization and every employee needs to believe in the core values.


Four things to building long term brand:

 

  1. Vision- chase the vision not the money. Their vision be about the very best customer service.
  2. Repeat customers- choose and focus on great product and great service
  3. Transparency - Be real and you have nothing to fear
  4. Culture - Committable core values:


  10. Be humble
    9. Be passionate
    8. Do more with less
    7. Build a positive team and family spirit
    6. Build open and honest relationship with commendations
    5. Pursue growth and learning
    4. Be adventurous, creative, and open minded
    3. Create fun and a little weirdness
    2. Embrace and drive change
    1. Deliver WOM through service

 

Zappos is owning the 3C - Clothing, Customer Service, and Culture and Zappos is all about delivering happiness to the customers and its employees.

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Richard Owen - CEO Satmetrix Co-author of Answering the Ultimate Question

 

Richard started us off with a view on the economy and what are the most important steps companies can take during this slow down.  I think Richard asked a good question, “Is flat the new up?” But really, the most important thing companies can focus on is their customers.


Key things companies should look at:

 

  1. Are you focused on customer retention which is a lot easier and more cost effective then custom acquisition
  2. Are companies making the right cuts, rather than cuts that will hurt customer loyalty long term
  3. Do you understand the economic value of Word of Mouth (WOM) or your promoters for your business.

 

DSC_6452.JPG Let’s Look at Advertising vs. Word of Mouth: Today Can advertising really be effective for long term growth? Companies can’t advertise their way out of trouble they have to focus on the customer’s experience. You can see this hold true when you look at the US auto industry and companies like Sprint both of which spend large advertising dollars but it has not resulted in increased sales. Today, the best customer service is now online retail where companies who invest in the customer experience, not advertising, are leading the way.  For example look at companies  like Overstock, Amazon, and Zappos.Deploying a Successful Net Promoter® Strategy: One theme that is consistent among the leading companies is that Net Promoter is really about a holistic approach that is part of the entire organization, not just the score. To truly be successful implementing a Net Promoter discipline requires change across the organization. Based on our findings, companies that are able to implement change management will be successful with their Net Promoter programs. Companies need to move away from business processes that do not work for them and learn how to create a radical shift in the organization.

 

 

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Brad Smith, President & CEO, Intuit

 

 

IMG_2138.JPG Brad Smith of Intuit gave us a preview of what a mature Net Promoter Discipline can look like in a company…and how it can be an underpinning of transformative work that is focused on delighting the customer. He opened by explaining that 81% of new sales for Intuit are attributable to Word of Mouth…so this isn’t just a nice to have. Having more promoters is central to their growth strategy. How did Intuit get to this point? It was clear from hearing Brad’s talk that he personally, and Intuit as a whole, had been using NPS and the core concepts of Net Promoter since the early days. He gave a compelling and concrete description of the phases of NPS adoption that they had passed through since starting with it in 2003. These phases may sound familiar to many companies who have been using Net Promoter: Phase 1: focused on the score. This is the ideas that most companies here about first…the Net Promoter Score. It’s obviously just a tiny part of what the concept is about, but it is the starting point for most companies who hear about Net Promoter. Phase 2: the verbatims. Brad pointed out that the next thing they did was dig into the verbatim comments. The big takeaway from this was that the customer experience was not just about the product. It was about the end-to-end experience for the customer. That’s the view from the outside in.

 

Phase 3: process mapping. Fix those detractors! That’s what happens next in nearly all companies. They see the feedback, and the squeaky wheels obviously need grease. In Intuit’s case, Brad described major investments they made to map out processes, improve them, and drive down the number of detractors. Nothing bad here, but it’s not the end of the story.

 

Phase 4: how to get more promoters. This is a big shift, and it requires a different mind set. Employees need to think about the things they can do to delight customers and generate more promoters. It’s usually hard for companies to focus on this until they have detractors under control. But it is crucial.

So, at this point, I would have thought the story was over. These are the four phases most companies talk to me about. But I think Brad appropriately added a fifth phase of adoption, which is critical to getting things right out of the gate (rather than going back to diagnose, fix, and improve)…

 

 

Phase 5: innovating with customers. Intuit focuses today on getting customers and employees to participate together in innovation. What’s interesting about this is not only the outcome you get in terms of the product and the customer experience, but also the fact that you can build more promoters by having them involved with your company in this process. They know they have a voice. It can also be a huge motivator for employees.

 

As a takeaway, Brad stressed three things to consider. The importance of leadership, the power of harnessing employee creativity, and the impact that co-innovation can have on word of mouth. Where is your company on this adoption path?

 

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Word of Mouth Economics

Posted by MichelleS Jan 26, 2009

Vince Nowinski - Net Promoter Economics - Teleco/Wireless Industry

 

We know that loyal customers repurchase, buy more, refer, and give constructive feedback.
Still many companies struggle to determine the value of customer loyalty.

 

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What is the power of word of mouth (WOM) and what does that mean for your business?

 

Word of Mouth is accelerating across industries making the dynamics of WOM even more important. Studies have shown that word of mouth is 9X more trustworthy and that 60% of customers trust the info they get from on-line reviews.

 

WOM is not just an extension of your advertising program. There needs to be something compelling for people to share or you can’t get them talking about it.


Like with anything the more positive the experience the more likely that the WOM would be positive and that negative experiences will result in negative WOM.

 

If the customer experience aligns with the message in the marketing then there is a synergy that can drive WOM. But traditional market methods do not tend to impact WOM. So companies should be looking at the natural way to apply WOM.

 

• For more details on the specific methodology please download this whitepaper Exploring the Relationship Between Net Promoter and Word of Mouth in the Wirless Industry

 

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How My M&Ms has bucked the trend and grown their business

 

Speakers: Tom Kehler, Satmetrix, and Claudio Pugliese, MARS Direct

 

How do you get your customers to feel that your brand is important to them?  Claudio Pugliese, who manages the Customer Care center for MARS My M&Ms, found first-hand that by genuinely engaging your customers in a conversation, your brand becomes more important to your customers, you create more Promoters, and the business grows.

 

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When My M&Ms first started their community reading the Detractor comments was “emotionally” difficult, but they were full of insights. And the comments from Promoters were also invaluable, yielding improvement ideas for both product and go-to-market. The critical element in both cases was around engaging their customers in dialogue, and to demonstrate through effective action and communication that they listened to customer feedback. Taking action – and then demonstrating that they listened – is critical to their success.

 

The results My M&Ms has achieved from taking action on feedback speaks for itself. Over 8 time periods since they started this approach, My M&Ms not only improved their NPS from 25% to now 58%, and even more significantly they’ve significantly grown sales. They’ve found that creating a superior customer experience leads to:

 

  • Enlisting more brand Promoters
  • Building brand loyalty
  • Activating positive Word of Mouth

 

Bottom-line is that by listening to the feedback from their customers they were able to grow their customer base (which also ordered more!).

 

As illustrative examples, the My M&Ms team implemented a few changes based on customer feedback:

 

  • They listened to customer complaints about pricing and adjusted it, resulting in larger orders per customer
  • They responded to customer requests for higher quality by introducing new inks and new capabilities
  • They adjusted their service policies, for example “no-questions-asked” returns

 

They started off averaging 14% repeat customer-order rate per period, and that has now grown significantly to a 25% repeat rate. More customers are ordering more, and in this economy My M&Ms has grown where their competitors are losing money.

 

How do they do it?

  1. My M&Ms established their online community with the important element to enable customers to join a club of influencers. And by demonstrating that the company listened and took direct action, customers talk more and provide further insights. Once you’ve established the relationship with Promoters, you have the ability to influence many more through those indirect connections
  2. NPS is part of everything they do. It tells them where to invest marketing dollars to get the greatest returns. It tells them which employees are creating Promoters. And it tells managers where to invest to ensure they are keeping their employees as Promoters.
  3. They are constantly looking at how they create more engaged customers, and they know that this is a measure of how important My M&Ms is to the customer.

 

In other words, Claudio tells us that they found that customers are looking to influence the companies they do business with.  If you talk to your customers they will talk to you.  Through their online community, My M&Ms has created a direct-to-consumer experience that allows them to engage. This works by asking open-ended questions and allowing customers to contribute ideas or select the ideas of others through the community platform.

 

Tom Kehler reminded us that engagement with your customers drives three major benefits:

 

  • Better products that your customers want to buy
  • Better marketing by letting your best customers tell you what resonates
  • Better word of mouth from engagement

 

Incidentally, Claudio started his talk by stating a critical success factor: “Make it easy.”  Claudio also closed his talk with a similar comment:  “Work across the internal organization, and make it easy for them to work with you on this important effort.  Put the information into terms that they need and understand.”

 

Well said.  Congratulations to the My M&Ms team for driving real business results through Net Promoter!

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Tony Hsieh, CEO, Zappos.com

 

Tony Hsieh has been speaking a lot lately at conferences. And when you hear the story of Zappos.com and it’s rise from $1.6 million in revenues in 2000 to $1 billion in revenues at the end of 2008, you can understand why people want to hear about it.

 

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What was refreshing for me was the amazing level of openness that Tony conveyed in his talk. They are so confident that they are building a great company, that they are not afraid to open the kimono.

 

I introduced Tony by sharing two personal stories that point out the power of Word of Mouth for the Zappos.com brand. I’ve actually never bought anything from Zappos personally, but my house is full of empty Zappos boxes, as my wife is a big promoter of their selection and service. I also shared a photo that one of our Satmetrix employees gave to me from his first visit to their facility in Henderson, Nevada, outside Las Vegas. The company gives tours of the facility, and ends the tour with a nice surprise. I won’t spoil it for those of you who have yet to visit there. I may check it out next time I’m in Vegas.

 

The brand simply inspired storytelling, and Tony explained that this is not entirely by accident. They focus deeply on the company culture (which is all about being the very best at customer service). And as Tony said, if you get the culture right, all the other good stuff follows…including good Word of Mouth and high Net Promoter Scores. Their NPS as measured internally has been running between 80-90%...which is pretty remarkable. But the balance of the discussion made it clear that they do a lot of specific things differently to generate so many promoters.

 

Tony talked about how “everyone is a little bit weird.” I personally identified with this a lot. I’ve got my quirks, and most of the people I know and love do to. People who don’t have quirks, or who mask them, are honestly not that interesting to me. That’s a big part of what makes us real and human…and I think it’s a bit of secret sauce in how Zappos is connecting emotionally with their customers.

 

They embrace this “differentness” in everything they do.

 

First of all with employees. Employees are encouraged to be themselves. They spend a lot of time selecting the right employees, making sure their values are customer service oriented. Then they put them all (everyone) through the same 5 week hands-on training program. They even offer to pay employees a sort of “departure bonus” after the first week of training if they don’t believe Zappos.com is the place for them. Tony explained that these practices help to get really committed individuals who are wired to fit with the company’s service-oriented culture. And it also allows them to unleash that creative energy at every point of customer interaction (without lots of complex policies and procedures). Now that’s different!

 

Process was next. They obviously do have processes…but again they seem to think of it differently. For example, they call their customer service team the “customer loyalty team.” That’s the ultimate goal right? You may service an automobile, but with people your goal is to make them loyal. How to do this? Well, their support team doesn’t “upsell,” they don’t measure call time, and if they don’t have the product in stock, the members of the loyalty team are encouraged to check 3 competitor websites to help the customer get what they want. Different, right?

 

Marketing and branding is different too. I loved it when Tony said that they have their 800 number at the top of every web page on their site. This contrasts radically with companies who are thinking of customer service as a cost, and try to make it hard to figure out how to call in for service. As Tony put it, the telephone is the best marketing tool out there. You get your customer’s undivided attention for 5 or 10 minutes to make a connection with them, and to establish who you are and what your brand is all about. Different again!

 

He wrapped up by reinforcing the 4 core things that he thinks companies need to get right to have a successful strategy:

 

  1. Vision: theirs is to deliver the best customer service. That’s it.
  2. Repeat Customers (not advertising): This is a big connection to the Net Promoter philosophy. Tony explained that they were forced to focus on repeat customers early on because of the dot com bust, but it has turned into one of their core metrics. They have gone from 20% repeat customers in the first 12 months, to over 50% today.
  3. Transparency: They are committed to being open and honest about who they are, and you can get a copy of the Zappos.com culture book (with messages from every employee), or connect directly with Tony online in blogs on twitter, you name it. They are committed to being open and honest.
  4. Culture: Their culture is their brand, and so it is for every company. Tony believes they are just 2 sides of the same coin.

 

Well put, Tony. Thanks for an inspiring and different view of how a company can operate.

 

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